Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

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Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Scrubbythecat » Wed May 06, 2009 12:15 pm

Dear Ms. XXXX,
Thank you for the prompt return of your processing unit, serial number 6687856. We apologize if you had issues with your CatGenie. Upon inspection by our technical department we have found the following evidence forcing us to void the warranty of your unit.
1. Cartridge Tampering and Non CatGenie Solution – There is evidence of corrosion and residue not that of an authorized cartridge or anything manufactured by PetNovations Inc. The solution used ate through silicone, repetive insertion of a the cartridge damaged needle, pieces of nipple from cartridge clogged into needle. Resulting in it ruining the motors and the boards.
2. Results- had to scrap in its entirety.
3. Pictures on file.

Please note that our posted policy states that such actions void our warranty policy (see below)
A. This two year limited warranty (four year if buyer purchased extended warranty) is valid for the Warranty Period and applies only to replacement of the parts found to be defective in material or workmanship. This warranty does not apply to damage due to misuse, abuse, neglect, alteration or the use of any unauthorized attachment; nor damage caused by use of an electrical circuit not specified on the CatGenie product.
You are prohibited from using the software or the hardware comprising the CatGenie except as expressly intended by PetNovations, Inc. Any modification of the CatGenie, including, for example, by using a device that resets the counter embedded on the CatGenie cartridges, or power converters is unauthorized, voids the warranty set forth above and exceeds the scope of the license granted to you by PetNovations, Inc. You will be solely responsible for any damage, harm or loss related to your misuse or unauthorized use of the CatGenie. Further, PetNovations, Inc. will seek full remuneration for any damage, harm or loss incurred by PetNovations, Inc. related to your misuse or unauthorized use of the CatGenie.


Sincerely,
PetNovations Technical Support Department


Solution used: TripleTwo
Dilution: 5 oz per cartridge with water 10 oz water

Not regular poster but a regular reader. I thought I should pass this along to others:

When I first called, I told them there was some rattling inside my processing unit when it ran. Customer service walked me through and listened to it run and sent me a new processing unit when they heard the noise. I sent back the processing unit and about a week later I received the letter above.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby se7enty » Wed May 06, 2009 12:46 pm

how did they know you were using a different solution? they can't prove that the corrosion wasn't caused by anything unless you sent the cartridge in with it or told them, i would think...
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Scrubbythecat » Wed May 06, 2009 1:07 pm

Obviously I did not send the cartridge. I do not know how they knew, but they knew it.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby psu1994ca » Wed May 06, 2009 1:25 pm

I am going to go out on a limb here and call Bull Sh*$. No offense Scrubbythecat ... but here is my case and I will let others make their own decision...

First looking at you:

1. Almost all your posts revolve around sales and deals on the Cat Genie unit. Out of 22 Posts: 9 revolve around sales prices and sales from the company
2. The rest of your posts are defending the company or pushing the product. For someone that post so infrequently you are very quick to defend the company or sell the porduct.

Now your claim:

1. In looking at the product you use there is nothing in it that would corrode silicone.
2. You dilute the product almost to the point of running water so it would be nearly impossible to test for residue and prove it was another product being used.
3. The cost and time of a lab test to determine a different product was used would be difficult and time consuming.
4. The needle insertion makes no sense since the increase rate of rubber coming into contact would be no different on a new vs old cartridge.
5. If the product you used was strong enough to eat through silicone it would have a corrosive warning because it would not be safe for contact with human hands. Alone it does not have a warning... so once you dilute it there would be even less of an effect.

Maybe I am wrong... maybe you got screwed... maybe you are just an honest person that loves to sell the product and defend the company. Hell I was accused of working for the company in another forum because I defended the product... but if I was a betting man.. i say you live and work in Wayne, PA.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby tomfisk2 » Wed May 06, 2009 1:41 pm

Reading the warranty it talks about software, hardware, and inappropriate attachments. No where does it state anything about the solution nor use of other solutions. Let's say I hook up the unit plumbing to my private well that has a high iron content. Are they going to void the warranty because my water is somehow "inappropriate"? I am leaning toward pressing the B.S. button also.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Rich33527 » Wed May 06, 2009 2:04 pm

I know that Pine Sol was starting to soften the silicone plugs in the cartridges for me, but when I pulled the unit apart the hoses inside were fine. The cartriges will start to leak after repeated use, but I never saw evidence of anything inside the processor. The only problem it cause was it seemed to coat the lenses on the water sensor on the underside of the processor.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Scrubbythecat » Wed May 06, 2009 2:08 pm

Whatever. I am just telling you the letter that I received.


FYI: I live in New York and I defend the company because I think most of the time they do the right thing by customers (at least by me).
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby coch3se » Wed May 06, 2009 2:28 pm

Scrubbythecat wrote:
Solution used: TripleTwo
Dilution: 5 oz per cartridge with water 10 oz water

Not regular poster but a regular reader. I thought I should pass this along to others:

When I first called, I told them there was some rattling inside my processing unit when it ran. Customer service walked me through and listened to it run and sent me a new processing unit when they heard the noise. I sent back the processing unit and about a week later I received the letter above.


Wow... that's a strong dilution.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby psu1994ca » Wed May 06, 2009 3:40 pm

Look... you may not work for the company... but I find it hard to believe that someone would buy the reprogramer to avoid buying from Cat Genie... would also:

1. Defend the company and intellectual property... yet by pass them for the solution....

2.Post every time the solution is on sale... you have no need to buy it... so why track the sale? NOT just on sale from Cat Genie.. but you also know about sales at Petco... AND Amazon:

Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:19 pm:
Amazon selling SaniSolution for $11.19
When you buy 3 you can get FREE Shipping. Not sure how long this will last get it now!
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you were SO excited about this sale for a product you do not need:

Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:03 am
Re: Amazon selling SaniSolution for $11.19
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Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:02 pm
CatGenie and supplies at Amazon now!
At Amazon, supplies are $13.99 and if you order over $25 they give free shipping. So you can get 3 cartriges at Amazon for $41.97 because of the free shipping. I think that is the cheapest price anywhere. Also, they sell the CatGenie for $299 with free shipping. It was $319 but they just reduced it ...
by Scrubbythecat

Maybe you are real... I still say you are real but work for the company.

That being said I do not blame you for this tactic... I do love the product and do defend the product on many sites...I just do not buy your story.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Pelvis Popcan » Wed May 06, 2009 4:09 pm

I think this shill busted himself with this thread. Bad idea. Ouch!
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Pelvis Popcan » Wed May 06, 2009 4:11 pm

By the way... I only use original cartridges in my CatGenie. And I support the company. But I don't support the shill behavior.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Scrubbythecat » Wed May 06, 2009 4:46 pm

First off, go fxxx yourselves. If I worked for the company, wouldn't I told you to buy from the company and not Amazon? I am not a big complainer, like the rest of you, and Pelvis is still pissed because I handed him his head awhile back. Yes, I think they are a good company. No, I did not buy a kit I made my own and now regret screwing with it and thought I would pass on my misfortune and now I am sorry I did so...
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby Scrubbythecat » Wed May 06, 2009 5:19 pm

psu1994ca, you are a bad detective.

I was buying sanisolution in 2007 when I made those posts telling people about a sale I thought they would be interested in. Also, everyone wanted Petco and Petsmart to carry the catgenie and supplies? So when I saw they were online I thought that was important to tell everyone and maybe soon we could drive and get them at the store.

what other wrong conclusions do people make:

Remember when 56Effie removed his own posts? EVERYONE went immediately to trying and convicting petnovations as the culprit and that they forced him to remove them. WRONG, HE DID IT HIMSELF.
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby loa » Wed May 06, 2009 5:23 pm

Scrubby:

I appreciate your posting. Very useful information.

Glad I use Petzyme, with the occasional few cycles of OG SaniSolution every week or so.

-david
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Re: Voided Warranty due to substitute solution ruining unit

Postby FourLeggedHairy » Wed May 06, 2009 5:32 pm

Scrubbythecat "If I worked for the company, wouldn't I told you to buy from the company and not Amazon? I am not a big complainer, like the rest of you... "

Good work Scrubbythecat. I've read the constant whining and complainers here for some time now, too. I don't believe they'd know a good company if it fell on them. They'll cheat the company out of buying solution but be the first to go after free or cheap upgrades. Ya' think that stuff is produced for free guys? Please don't accuse Scrubbythecat with posting prices, a ton of users do the same thing.

I've never seen a post for a warranty being voided due to solution. Using reprogrammers and assorted solutions brings to mind the carney quote " you pays your money and yous takes your chances." Get ready boys, the hammer may be coming down.

Any other voided warranty letters? Please post them, it makes for great reading. I want everyone to 'fess up when it happens.

I can answer before the accusation: No, I don't work for Catgenie. By the way, visit their website, they are in Norristown, not Wayne.
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